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In the 2nd photo you can see how a painted hood really shows off the nostrils, which I like personally, but it's nice to live in a world with choices...
 


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@BULL, you have to go WB unless you plan on only street driving and doing standing mile runs with the car. The WB is WELL worth it for anything that involves using the steering wheel.
 


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If they wanted to infuse some SRT in to other areas, why didn't they just include the SRT team in those projects as consultants or whatever like Ralph claimed they did on TRX and 392 Wrangler?

On the flip side of that statement, what else could SRT have developed? Surely we don't all think they can just keep bumping horsepower 90-100 more every year? I thought the Hellephant might be the last hoorah on the big motor power war and then smaller V8s with twins or V6 with twins in a smaller platform would start to trickle in to test the water with target customers. Or maybe the Hellephant was developed to be the last hoorah, then this Stellanis deal started to come in to play so they scrapped that and offered it as a crate motor to recoup some R&D dollars. Those big mergers/buyouts don't just happen over night.

This could have just simply been a case of nothing else for the SRT team to develop at present and rather then lay them all off they moved them in to other roles.
 


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@BULL, you have to go WB unless you plan on only street driving and doing standing mile runs with the car. The WB is WELL worth it for anything that involves using the steering wheel.

Exactly my dilemma

Standing Mile wants that lower Cd.

Road course wants those wheels
 


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If they wanted to infuse some SRT in to other areas, why didn't they just include the SRT team in those projects as consultants or whatever like Ralph claimed they did on TRX and 392 Wrangler?

On the flip side of that statement, what else could SRT have developed? Surely we don't all think they can just keep bumping horsepower 90-100 more every year? I thought the Hellephant might be the last hoorah on the big motor power war and then smaller V8s with twins or V6 with twins in a smaller platform would start to trickle in to test the water with target customers. Or maybe the Hellephant was developed to be the last hoorah, then this Stellanis deal started to come in to play so they scrapped that and offered it as a crate motor to recoup some R&D dollars. Those big mergers/buyouts don't just happen over night.

This could have just simply been a case of nothing else for the SRT team to develop at present and rather then lay them all off they moved them in to other roles.
Wishful thinking...ever smell a corpse...the stench travels..and it doesn't wash off...I'm tellin ya..this stinks
 


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Exactly my dilemma

Standing Mile wants that lower Cd.

Road course wants those wheels
Well the standard body works for mile runs...the WB gives the flexibility of wheel / tire combos...then there's the aesthetics...the narrow body shouts...I don't care what I look like...the wide body makes a statement...take the narrow body and in no time..you'll stop brushin your teeth...and combing your hair...am I gettin through here:unsure::unsure::unsure:
 


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If the wide body had stamped fenders I would agree. I just cant get past the stick on flares for $7k.
 


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Exactly my dilemma

Standing Mile wants that lower Cd.

Road course wants those wheels
Keep your current car for mile runs. Get a WB for a fun street car and for road courses. Keep the WB closer to stock for power but mod the suspension. Mod your current car for power and keep the suspension fairly basic.
 


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If they wanted to infuse some SRT in to other areas, why didn't they just include the SRT team in those projects as consultants or whatever like Ralph claimed they did on TRX and 392 Wrangler?

On the flip side of that statement, what else could SRT have developed? Surely we don't all think they can just keep bumping horsepower 90-100 more every year? I thought the Hellephant might be the last hoorah on the big motor power war and then smaller V8s with twins or V6 with twins in a smaller platform would start to trickle in to test the water with target customers. Or maybe the Hellephant was developed to be the last hoorah, then this Stellanis deal started to come in to play so they scrapped that and offered it as a crate motor to recoup some R&D dollars. Those big mergers/buyouts don't just happen over night.

This could have just simply been a case of nothing else for the SRT team to develop at present and rather then lay them all off they moved them in to other roles.
For sure, the days of the Hemi that SRT has concentrated on for a decade or more are numbered. There will likely be another engine variant coming soon for the new vehicle platforms that are inevitably coming. SRT as a brand will play a hand in this. The big changes I see from the SRT we've become accustomed to are:
  1. The SRT way of developing a product is no more. Previously there was a dedicated team of powertrain and vehicle engineers who only focused on SRT products. This also had the result that they could do things differently than the larger corporate powertrain and vehicle groups could. Something like the Demon could have never happened in the same time frame if it was done using the normal development methods. It was a small skunkworks team that only pulled in outside resources like FEA, CFD, etc. as needed. The 6.1L was developed completely outside the CTC complex and there was almost no interaction with the main powertrain organization. Even SRT engine durability cycles were created then that the main powertrain organization couldn't sign up for.
  2. Since the Demon launched almost all of the powertrain engineers involved in that program had already left SRT. So . . . the few people that remained that launched the TRX and 392 Rubicon, didn't have a long time with SRT learning the skunkworks methods. They will likely merge into the normal culture without as much of a shock.
 


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Umm, okay. So I buy an electric vehicle, come home in the evening and plug it in to charge from...solar panels?

Unless I mount a spotlight that illuminates the solar panels, how will that work out?? We have very clear skies, and the moon obviously shines every now and then, but that won't be enough.
Yep. Anyone got an answer for this?
 


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...the wide body makes a statement...
It does. Makes some wonder why a good looking car got four dually fenders slapped onto it.
But at least it's not four doors...
 


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Yep. Anyone got an answer for this?
Solar should charge a battery bank to be used when the sun is not available, much like the RVers do. Or . . . you just use the normal electricity company as a source at night.
 


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Yep. Anyone got an answer for this?
Keep your saddled mule grazing in the back yard 24/7.
 


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Solar should charge a battery bank to be used when the sun is not available, much like the RVers do. Or . . . you just use the normal electricity company as a source at night.

Well, apparently the idea was to use solar panels, in order to not tap into the general grid.

So that leaves having a solar powered battery bank large enough to charge up an electric vehicle's batteries over night. I'm way to lazy to look up any numbers, but based on that many electric vehicles apparently need at least eight hours to get fully charged, that would require a seriously sized bank of batteries...to charge the batteries in the car. Yes, we now have two sets of toxic containers to deal with, both of which are also expensive.

In my mind, and if using the grid is okay, the spot light shining on the panels at night almost makes sense, by bypassing the need for a large battery bank.
Not as much sense as just plugging into the grid, of course, and nowhere near as much as just putting gas in a real car, wherever, as needed.
 


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Well, apparently the idea was to use solar panels, in order to not tap into the general grid.

So that leaves having a solar powered battery bank large enough to charge up an electric vehicle's batteries over night. I'm way to lazy to look up any numbers, but based on that many electric vehicles apparently need at least eight hours to get fully charged, that would require a seriously sized bank of batteries...to charge the batteries in the car. Yes, we now have two sets of toxic containers to deal with, both of which are also expensive.

In my mind, and if using the grid is okay, the spot light shining on the panels at night almost makes sense, by bypassing the need for a large battery bank.
Not as much sense as just plugging into the grid, of course, and nowhere near as much as just putting gas in a real car, wherever, as needed.
https://www.tesla.com/powerwall
 


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I don't even want to know how much one of those would cost, or how many it would take to charge a car over night. The output per unit isn't overly impressive so it would take a few, I'd think.

Maybe enough to make my diesel generator seem like a bargain, and it runs regardless of weather conditions.
And speaking of weather conditions, those things apparently don't work when it's below -4 degrees.
Then what? Solar panels to run some sort of heater for the Tesla Powerwalls?
 


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It does. Makes some wonder why a good looking car got four dually fenders slapped onto it.
But at least it's not four doors...
Aww Jimmie Jimmie...you showed so much promise...next thing ya know you n that melon head CC..are gonna try and convince us all how gorgeous those fox bodies were that you and CC had back in the day...WTF Jimmie..;);););)
 


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Aww Jimmie Jimmie...you showed so much promise...next thing ya know you n that melon head CC..are gonna try and convince us all how gorgeous those fox bodies were that you and CC had back in the day...WTF Jimmie..;);););)
Oh, I had quite a few fox bodies back in the day. Now I'm stuck with one (my current girlfriend).

Anyway, if you were referring to those Furds...hate to tell you, but I never had enough tools or patience to own one.
 


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Oh, I had quite a few fox bodies back in the day. Now I'm stuck with one (my current girlfriend).

Anyway, if you were referring to those Furds...hate to tell you, but I never had enough tools or patience to own one.
I seem to remember you alluding to the fact that she's a hottie.(pics or it didn't happen)...and she's a good earner as well...;);)
 




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