Kong Ported 3.8 Candy Apple

[GNBRETT]

Greg from Kong just sent me these photos. Pretty psyched. 3.8 Billet version ported. Should ship in a few days. BES Racing just called me friday and told me my Aluminum 430ci Stroker/Thitec headed motor is on the way!

So psyched! Been a year long build smh. Been waiting 10 months for the motor. 130mm TB just came in as well with 2150 injectors and (3) JMS boost a pumps. She's gonna be thirsty..... Guys are telling me they are making 1500 whp with this similar combo. Idn we will see I guess. Married to E85 now...... Were inseparable cause I cant run 93 octane with those injectors unfortunately.

 

[vortecd]

Very nice. I believe all the 3.8s are ported

 

[vortecd]

@jonx96 can fill you in on what you need to know with those 2150s

 

[jonx96]

Personally I don’t run 93 through my 2150s. But the instructions with the 2150s specifically say to run pump gas through them and not just e85. They are not like id1700s or 1650s were the are a Bosch injector. They need to be lubed or they will rust.
or you will have to buy a cleaner or send them out every so often to be cleaned.

 

[jonx96]

Also no mbte fuels. VP c85 is a no go for these injectors. (Inside the box talks about the pump gas)

CAUTION! The internal construction of this 2150cc/min injector includes a seal that has been found to swell when in contact with MTBE from oxygenated fuels like Q16 or VP Import. This swelling causes a significant reduction in flow through the injector and therefore renders it unsuitable for use with MTBE oxygenated fuels. Please be sure to follow the care instructions for these injectors since there are potential corrosion issues that may arise from prolonged disuse while exposed to alcohol based fuels (E85, etc.)

 

[GNBRETT]

Great info thanx guys. I plan on running One Ethanol unless someone has a better idea. I will also run pump E85 as well plan on having different tunes. One ethanol for track or grudge and pump E85 otherwise.

I spoke with Z since he has pretty much the exact same setup more or less and he recommeneded the 2150's thats why I chose them. I did look at the 2650's as well but these were what was recommended.

I have too much money and time into it to be fucking around with 93 octane these days. E85 just runs so much cooler and of course the added power and timing but im moving to a town that has E85 at the gas pump lol.

Probably would have stayed with the 1700's if I was gonna run 93 octane but I put a rod thru my block last year on 93 octane so for my power goals it just no longer works for me.

 

[jonx96]

2150s are a great injector and I recommend them all the time. Do not regret your purchase. They idle and part throttle amazing. I would 100% agree with him 2150s over the 1700s.

 

[GNBRETT]

Thanx bud.

2150s are a great injector and I recommend them all the time. Do not regret your purchase. They idle and part throttle amazing. I would 100% agree with him 2150s over the 1700s.

 

[jonx96]

One Ethonal is what I run in my car great stuff. Forgot to reply to that. I ran S for a long time but switched to R last year

 

[Magnified]

Great info thanx guys. I plan on running One Ethanol unless someone has a better idea. I will also run pump E85 as well plan on having different tunes. One ethanol for track or grudge and pump E85 otherwise.

I spoke with Z since he has pretty much the exact same setup more or less and he recommeneded the 2150's thats why I chose them. I did look at the 2650's as well but these were what was recommended.

I have too much money and time into it to be fucking around with 93 octane these days. E85 just runs so much cooler and of course the added power and timing but im moving to a town that has E85 at the gas pump lol.

Probably would have stayed with the 1700's if I was gonna run 93 octane but I put a rod thru my block last year on 93 octane so for my power goals it just no longer works for me.

My problem here is E85 is not at any pumps in this county. Nearest is about 45 miles away one way, and the quality has been sporadic (according to others using it). So E85 is not something I have experimented with.

 

[Hickster]

Change de injectors. When going 2 different alitudes, used to have 2 change em all da times. If lifters knock, switch em out frum hydrolocks to solids. I used to blue print, port and polish engins all da time. Asspecially when I got bored trueing up wheels.

 

[Unholy707]

Greg from Kong just sent me these photos. Pretty psyched. 3.8 Billet version ported. Should ship in a few days. BES Racing just called me friday and told me my Aluminum 430ci Stroker/Thitec headed motor is on the way!

So psyched! Been a year long build smh. Been waiting 10 months for the motor. 130mm TB just came in as well with 2150 injectors and (3) JMS boost a pumps. She's gonna be thirsty..... Guys are telling me they are making 1500 whp with this similar combo. Idn we will see I guess. Married to E85 now...... Were inseparable cause I cant run 93 octane with those injectors unfortunately.

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Aluminum block?

 

[Hickster]

Oh boy. Great for weight butt knot fer heat. Warrpening problems.

 

[GNBRETT]

Yep. A 100 lbs lighter than stock. BES Racing tells me its good for 2000+ hp. Its got a Winberg Billet crank and Oliver Billet rods. Everything was speced out by BES Racing I just told them my HP goals and they picked everything actually.

BES Racing builds some of the fastest shit in the country. I was on the fence about the Aluminum but then HHP also convinced me to go that route as they had already broke (3) stock blocks that year then went with the Aluminum version which is much stronger and reinforced in many areas and since then they have not hurt the block.

The only thing I dont have is the Titanium valves. I waited 6 months for them and was tired of waiting. I can always upgrade later but I just wanted my dam motor been waiting like close to a year smh I wasnt being held up all dam summer for valves F-that!

Btw, got a complete Nitrous kit going on as well with progressive controller and all. Plate system from Nitrous Outlet. IDN if im even gonna use nitrous. If I make enough power on blower only I might just skip it for now. But maybe a 200 shot or something.

Aluminum block?

 

[Magnified]

What was the hold up with the titanium?

 

[Hickster]

It creates cancer and makes 1 testical fall off.

 

[GNBRETT]

IDN actually. I think the government is buying it all up I was told. Cant confirm that tho but whatever ill just have to upgrade at a later date.

What was the hold up with the titanium?

 

[Hickster]

Ty tan ium is used to produce batterys fer the damn vehicles. Wonder,, whom is going to be responsible fer da disposible of these toxic critters?? Da government? Like da toxic clean upster of the Dept of Energies Plants scattered all over Florida? I worked on 75% of these and they still sit. Unused and not taken care of. GE, E Systems, Honeywell, ect. Moe gov bullshitskees.