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EPA cracking down on performance tuning

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Done, they must have fixed it.
 


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Yeah this could be a problem. If they threaten to put tuners in jail, that could make things a lot more difficult. My car still has cats and all the emissions equipment installed, plus a catch can for extra measure ;)

In July of 2018 the people here voted to end emission testing. It makes no sense to have to sit in line, pay money to have a car tested prior to renewing the license plate, when the car is brand new with a 10 year emission system warranty. Here it is 2021 (3 years later) and yep I had to sit in line yesterday to get the Hellcat to pass emissions to get the plate renewed. Seems three years later the paper work hasn't completed all the necessary steps.

They do not do a tail pipe test here on 1996 (I think that's right) and newer vehicles. On OBDII they just plug up and check for readiness of the emission monitors. I've been working on the car, and yep had to drive around to get the monitors to set, so I burned fuel so I could pass an emisisons test. Brilliant LOL.

As for E85, it does burn much cleaner than gasoline so if where you are does a tail pipe test it should be no problem, but if they do an OBDII test it will depend on how the tune is setup I believe. There are some tweaks to oxygen sensors and a couple other things to get it really working well that may impact some of the readiness monitors. I need to test that myself. I simply loaded my 93 tune to pass this year rather than fool with the flex tune passing.
 


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it looks like modding our cars will soon be coming to an end in the biden administrations green policies, feds are cracking down on speed shops especially when it comes to cat deletes and flashing your ECM's
I’ll keep it short. Fuck Joe and the EPA. Ok, I’m done.
 


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Start with the post office PS smog spewing vans. I live on a culda sac and every day when the mail van shows up it smogs up the whole street.
Dude you misunderstand. That is complimentary mosquito fogging
 


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Dude you misunderstand. That is complimentary mosquito fogging
Thanks, cough cough, for explaining, it cough cough.
 


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Thanks, cough cough, for explaining, it cough cough.
Ah, the ‘50’s. The good old days.
 


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Ah, the ‘50’s. The good old days.
Still spray here.
Need them.
 


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Still spray here.
Need them.
Do they still use DDT? It’s not the evil that they made it out to be, but I thought it was still banned.
 


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Do they still use DDT? It’s not the evil that they made it out to be, but I thought it was still banned.
The banning of DDT killed way more people than the usage of it.
 


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Didn't the EPA try to push through a no modification bill/law about 4-5 years ago but it was shot down? The was quite a backlash/uproar and people made their feelings known.

I will say there are a lot of very "dirty' diesels running around here and those fuckers should have to breathe in the shit they spew out themselves. So stinky and foul!
Yes they did. Even off road vehicles were going to have to meet certain emission standards. Then Trump got elected and it didn't happen.
I come from the diesel word and know how that has changed in the last 2 years. We should all be scared. Companies like PPEI ended up spending 6 figures to verify their tunes are emission compliant. I will have to try and find some of those forum posts or articles from a few years ago.
 


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Yes they did. Even off road vehicles were going to have to meet certain emission standards. Then Trump got elected and it didn't happen.
I come from the diesel word and know how that has changed in the last 2 years. We should all be scared. Companies like PPEI ended up spending 6 figures to verify their tunes are emission compliant. PPEI was not very liked in the diesel world because they pretty much sold out to the epa. Made a deal with them and it back fired. I will have to try and find some of those forum posts or articles from a few years ago.
Actually that's not what happened. He did not sell out. He's the only guy that faught the EPA with his own money.
 


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I looked back, it was early 2016 when the EPA was trying this the first time...
 


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Actually that's not what happened. He did not sell out. He's the only guy that faught the EPA with his own money.
You must have quoted me before I edited. I couldnt find the support so i edited my post. He did end up buying a ton of equipment for emission testing to stay tuning though correct? Because i couldn't go back and find that either.
 


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We don’t have emissions testing here ,the city council decided that the money them employees were making could go in there pockets 😁,but the law about the tuning has always been around its nothing new at all ,I personally believe it’s been brought up again to just add more division in the country like everything else that’s going on ,there are a lot of laws that don’t get truly enforced but if it does become an issue I’ll have the fastest all stock Prius 🤣😂
 


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We don't have emissions here
However, I can see it being a statewide thing since it has the ability to be another cash cow in a cash strapped blue state.

With that said, I am moving back to old cars to modify and run. Build a Charger with a modified Hellcrate and everyone will leave your ass alone.
 


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