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Dodge Calls Out Charger Daytona SRT EV Concept Haters in a Pretty Direct Way

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Oh, and while I think I made where I stand pretty clear in the other "reveal" thread, I will say I will give them the benefit of the doubt until I see it and test drive it. I don't want the fake bullshit noise, but I'll at least give them a chance. And price point is also a factor. Put this on the road for 60,000 and I'd be impressed. Out the door for 150K...

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LOL if Stellantis truly understood the Mopar Muscle intellect they would have gone a whole different direction. And they would be posting a video showing up the Woke Green Agenda Ass Hats. They’d show a Hellcat dragging a Golf cart car like what @SilverBillet drives around in the villages of Fl 😁. Yeh show the Ice Age smoking tires and blowing exhaust up the Greenie dude in his skirt waiting for the electric bus to show up. If they really understood us we would be hearing about more Ice not less ice. I mean come on these bastards want to roll over and suck there thumbs as the Greenies tell them how to act. Ridiculous being we are over 13 years away from the Wack Jobs enforcing no ICE sales in many parts of the world. But yeh uh huh we are now part of the European flair conglomerate that sips teas and wears skirts and sandals to there delights with butterflies dancing in the streets. The Electric Revolution has begun and sadly us Mopar guys and gals are now the enemy instead of the friends to help those who are lost by the Misinformation Revolution.
 


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Let's just put our money together and start our own damn car company!! Tell em @ChargerChallenger :LOL:
 


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Thinking the brotherhood of muscle has been turned into the sisterhood for 2020s
 


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LOL if Stellantis truly understood the Mopar Muscle intellect they would have gone a whole different direction. And they would be posting a video showing up the Woke Green Agenda Ass Hats. They’d show a Hellcat dragging a Golf cart car like what @SilverBillet drives around in the villages of Fl 😁. Yeh show the Ice Age smoking tires and blowing exhaust up the Greenie dude in his skirt waiting for the electric bus to show up. If they really understood us we would be hearing about more Ice not less ice. I mean come on these bastards want to roll over and suck there thumbs as the Greenies tell them how to act. Ridiculous being we are over 13 years away from the Wack Jobs enforcing no ICE sales in many parts of the world. But yeh uh huh we are now part of the European flair conglomerate that sips teas and wears skirts and sandals to there delights with butterflies dancing in the streets. The Electric Revolution has begun and sadly us Mopar guys and gals are now the enemy instead of the friends to help those who are lost by the Misinformation Revolution.
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Guilty as charged huh? maybe, you should have used your right to remain silent on that one. I heard all about your dealers' meeting Friday, you are really turning into a useless company. over promising under-delivering, Even your Gms are Shaking their heads in disgust.. How do I know? I was there as it closed, and that was the reaction they got, no pertinent questions were answered, other than plant shut down.
 


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Thinking the brotherhood of muscle has been turned into the sisterhood for 2020s
Depends on what they’re identifying as that particular day🤔
 


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Guilty as charged huh? maybe, you should have used your right to remain silent on that one. I heard all about your dealers' meeting Friday, you are really turning into a useless company. over promising under-delivering, Even your Gms are Shaking their heads in disgust.. How do I know? I was there as it closed, and that was the reaction they got, no pertinent questions were answered, other than plant shut down.
Please fill in the blanks for some of us??

Or the turds are circling in the bowl?
 


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Please fill in the blanks for some of us??
They had Zero answers for the dealers on the hyped-up editions for the 23 model year, Maybe instead of making commercials trying to tick off your base, your real BASE you may want to concentrate on building cars.
 


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I'm starting to believe that they never had any intention of keeping Dodge or Chrysler. They just want to "cash out" on the way out.
If doing away with Dodge and Chrysler but cashing out has been the intention all along that would be irreparable with me.
 


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If doing away with Dodge and Chrysler but cashing out has been the intention all along that would be irreparable with me.
This is looking like more than just killing off some American brands but a total assault on the American psyche.
 


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Oh, and while I think I made where I stand pretty clear in the other "reveal" thread, I will say I will give them the benefit of the doubt until I see it and test drive it. I don't want the fake bullshit noise, but I'll at least give them a chance. And price point is also a factor. Put this on the road for 60,000 and I'd be impressed. Out the door for 150K...

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60k out the door, I would at least test drive it before saying no.
 


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60k out the door, I would at least test drive it before saying no.
60k out the door in Rhode Island dude what's in the Dels your drinking?
they can't even do the old and final model year.
 


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60k out the door in Rhode Island dude what's in the Dels your drinking?
they can't even do the old and final model year.
The concept is a fake. Nothing more.
 


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This is looking like more than just killing off some American brands but a total assault on the American psyche.
If this be the case, certainly the marketing department would have done some serious bean counting on a statistic level, and ponder the loss vs gain of old muscle client vs new electric folk. Play that card too early and it could be financial self inflicted suicide move. Being they have so many brands under their belt they just might stuff the whole line If it fails. So in a way you might be right Dave, Can you imagine if Harley played this card. Get rid of all V Twin ice and go solely with their electric concoction “ by by “ to Harley one of the most symbolic recognized logo brands. I read once that world wide Harley was right up there with Disney Mickey Mouse, Coke, with brand logo recognition, been about 5 or more years not certain if currently at same status quo based on the newbie’s mind set.
 


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If this be the case, certainly the marketing department would have done some serious bean counting on a statistic level, and ponder the loss vs gain of old muscle client vs new electric folk. Play that card too early and it could be financial self inflicted suicide move. Being they have so many brands under their belt they just might stuff the whole line If it fails. So in a way you might be right Dave, Can you imagine if Harley played this card. Get rid of all V Twin ice and go solely with their electric concoction “ by by “ to Harley one of the most symbolic recognized logo brands. I read once that world wide Harley was right up there with Disney Mickey Mouse, Coke, with brand logo recognition, been about 5 or more years not certain if currently at same status quo based on the newbie’s mind set.
I'm thinking Ford has learned a bit because looks like the new mustang platform is still going to have a v8 and a 6-speed, And i want to say separation of the Mach e from the mustang brand but I'm not absolutely sure on that part .
 


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Dodge will probably get an attitude and decide to slow down the Ice Production just to shove it in our face😳
 


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Dodge will probably get an attitude and decide to slow down the Ice Production just to shove it in our face😳
Best way to loose your customer base.
 


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LOL if Stellantis truly understood the Mopar Muscle intellect they would have gone a whole different direction. And they would be posting a video showing up the Woke Green Agenda Ass Hats. They’d show a Hellcat dragging a Golf cart car like what @SilverBillet drives around in the villages of Fl 😁. Yeh show the Ice Age smoking tires and blowing exhaust up the Greenie dude in his skirt waiting for the electric bus to show up. If they really understood us we would be hearing about more Ice not less ice. I mean come on these bastards want to roll over and suck there thumbs as the Greenies tell them how to act. Ridiculous being we are over 13 years away from the Wack Jobs enforcing no ICE sales in many parts of the world. But yeh uh huh we are now part of the European flair conglomerate that sips teas and wears skirts and sandals to there delights with butterflies dancing in the streets. The Electric Revolution has begun and sadly us Mopar guys and gals are now the enemy instead of the friends to help those who are lost by the Misinformation Revolution.
Thats all fine and dandy and while I wholeheartedly agree, everyone here ignores the reality going on around them. The GOVT is FORCING this bullshit on us with rediculously High CAFE standards on the way that NO ONE can meet, and NO GASOLINE engines by 2035 etc etc. Do you really think Kuniskis and Dodge want the hellcat gravy train to end? They gotta be making $$ hand over fist with this 14 year old platform selling it with a tupperware interior for $100k. BUT what you suggest them doing will put them out of business Govt Regulations and fines would see to that.

Several problems exist. Mopar doesnt have any small fuel efficient vehicles to compensate for the near zero MPG trucks, jeeps and V8 cars they do make so they are paying millions in fines and or carbon credits to Tesla and the competition to make up for missing MPG targets and keep selling these cars . Basically funding the competition and the Govt is making this situation more untenable every year.

Second, stellantis is a European company, and most of those companies are drowning in the BS climate change/zero carbon kool aide so they are happy to push the V8 and dodge over a cliff in the name of Mother earth so Mopar isnt going to get any help from the Mothership. Dodge likely has near zero leverage with the mothership and is likely being told what they can and cant do.

Third, instead of looking at the new EV charger and saying its sucks compared to a Hellcat etc (It prob does) look at it and compare it to the other EVs out there. Thats the competition.THOSE will be your choices and its not Dodge's or Tim's fault, its your govt, your elected officials and the brainwashed masses that believe in this bullshit. In that respect Dodge did a damn good job of making a fucking golf cart look good and it will probably perform on the level of a Tesla Plaid. The sound is gimmicky but I get where they are coming from. Everyone is claiming dodge is going to go bankrupt because they left their customers behind etc. No, theyd go bankrupt swimming against the govt regulation and business currents as they are by NOT making EVs and continuing to do what they are doing. They are trying to give us what we want in the context of what they are allowed to do. They are painted into a corner. Some companies hopped on board early (Ford/GM) and have EVs out there big, small, and trucks to compensate for Mustangs and Corvettes but stellantis has nothing.

Fourth everyone pisses and moans about everything for the last year being a sticker package. Well WTF can dodge do? If they redesign the car, even parts of the car, it has to go back through govt certification. They arent going to spend millions of dollars to change the car or the engines for the last year of production with no future ahead of it. So yeah stickers and paint is about all they can do. Would you be happy if they didnt do anything? Just give us black, white and a few other colors and say Fk it? Having said that, I think the shakedown package was Meh, The Swinger package was a MISS, they should have just left the holy guacomole SEMA car as is, which is close but without the 70s moniker. I get they were tieing it back to "heritage" but that wasnt the right call. The Super Bee 1320 charger is interesting. IMO. While I dont like all the packages so far, I dont hate that they are doing it.

Ok Lets say Mopar tells everyone to Fk off and keeps making hellcats and keeps selling them for $80-100k. How long do you think before they run out of customers at that price in a down economy. Then big brother steps in and puts a BIGGER penaly $$$ on it because of emissions and not meeting MPG limits. Then insurance companies tripple and quadruple your rates because it isnt green and well HP is dangerous. Then the govt puts a $4/gallon tax on gas to pay for roads and building butterfly fart recapture centers. How long before No one can afford to drive car or buy one? Whats a better business plan fora company that wants to stay in business

Personally I think this whole EV thing and no gas engines by 20xx is going to implode in a few years and maybe things will go back to being sane with EVs being adopted at a normal rate while new ICE cars return to the streets. Hopefully Dodge has some plans in the works in case that happens. The grid cant handle all EVs, China is on the verge of imploding (I give em 5-6 years) Europe is about to find out how difficult winter is with no electricity and the world is going to get an education over the next year or two about how dependent we are on oil and how important it is to a modern society.

Im on board with you all about "I Hate this shit" but its not Dodge's fault. Here's hoping sanity one day prevails.
 


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You are only FORCED if you decide to COMPLY.

YOU seem to easily forget that this is supposed to be a FREE country.
 




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