• Sign Up! To view all forums and unlock additional cool features

    Welcome to the #1 Dodge, Jeep and RAM Forum dedicated to FCA owners and enthusiasts. Register for an account, it's free and it's easy, so don't hesitate to join the SRT Forum today!


2019 "Poverty Pak" Widebody Challenger

OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #141
Lol . My wife got use to it . She says at least I'm only out in my shop and not far away
Like in a bar or strip club. Mine used to come out and check on me to see if I was alive or hungry - then she got her "projects" and just leaves me to fend for myself. ;)
 


Hpindy

4000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#974
Messages
4,869
Reactions
11,001
Likes
302
City
Jackson's Point
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2018 challenger hellcat
Like in a bar or strip club. Mine used to come out and check on me to see if I was alive or hungry - then she got her "projects" and just leaves me to fend for myself. ;)
Exactly !

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #143
Natasha and I were on our way back from dropping our kids off at school in the Hellkitty. We came to an intersection on a rural road and it was wide open in front of us. Got the car rolling and punched it, on the fast 1-2 shift under full load all I hear next to me is: Ooof!

Me: Are you okay? That noise you just made when I shifted sounded like someone kicked you in the chest.
Natasha: Because that's what it felt like.
Me: I love this car...
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #144
Race Cool Down is a neat little feature. The factory cooling fan moves a lot of air... it held a playing card to the grille. Which is about 2 inches in front of the heat exchanger, a/c condenser, and the radiator.


014.jpg

Also, Track Mode is F*CKING INSANE! The car was shredding the tires in 2nd gear at over 40mph. I think I peed a little.
 


Hpindy

4000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#974
Messages
4,869
Reactions
11,001
Likes
302
City
Jackson's Point
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2018 challenger hellcat
Race Cool Down is a neat little feature. The factory cooling fan moves a lot of air... it held a playing card to the grille. Which is about 2 inches in front of the heat exchanger, a/c condenser, and the radiator.


View attachment 3742

Also, Track Mode is F*CKING INSANE! The car was shredding the tires in 2nd gear at over 40mph. I think I peed a little.
Do you have the 717hp model ?

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #146

Hpindy

4000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#974
Messages
4,869
Reactions
11,001
Likes
302
City
Jackson's Point
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2018 challenger hellcat
I wasnt sure if the " lowly" hellcat got race comedown. So I guess all hellcat challengers get the race cool down starting in 2019.

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
 


coolblue

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
Member ID
#1172
Messages
1,577
Reactions
2,695
Likes
162
City
Long Island
State
NY
Country
United States
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
Race Cool Down is a neat little feature. The factory cooling fan moves a lot of air... it held a playing card to the grille. Which is about 2 inches in front of the heat exchanger, a/c condenser, and the radiator.


View attachment 3742

Also, Track Mode is F*CKING INSANE! The car was shredding the tires in 2nd gear at over 40mph. I think I peed a little.
That's WITHOUT mods yet. LOL
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #149
That's WITHOUT mods yet. LOL
I really want to get the drag radials and skinnies on this thing and go full point and shoot with it.
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #150
I wasnt sure if the " lowly" hellcat got race comedown. So I guess all hellcat challengers get the race cool down starting in 2019.
Yeah, 2019 seems to be a watershed year for these things.
 


Hpindy

4000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#974
Messages
4,869
Reactions
11,001
Likes
302
City
Jackson's Point
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2018 challenger hellcat
I really want to get the drag radials and skinnies on this thing and go full point and shoot with it.
Sun Oct 13 at Naperville..... We will be there!

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
 


moparjim

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
10 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1084
Messages
1,731
Reactions
4,306
Likes
212
City
Vaudreuil
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2016 Challenger Hellcat
Sun Oct 13 at Naperville..... We will be there!

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
Or Tomorrow at 9:30 Frenchcat and I will be there. LOL
It's not a bad drive for him, only 3 hrs.
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #153
Or Tomorrow at 9:30 Frenchcat and I will be there. LOL
It's not a bad drive for him, only 3 hrs.
I was trying for tomorrow but got shut down by the Mrs. Something about being a responsible Father and not leaving my 6 year old unattended in the stands while I did risky things. I have so much to learn about parenting. LOL.
 


moparjim

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
10 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#1084
Messages
1,731
Reactions
4,306
Likes
212
City
Vaudreuil
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2016 Challenger Hellcat
I was trying for tomorrow but got shut down by the Mrs. Something about being a responsible Father and not leaving my 6 year old unattended in the stands while I did risky things. I have so much to learn about parenting. LOL.
Oh well. Next time then.
Fwiw you could strap your 6yr old to the stands near another mother. But I guess that is frowned upon these days. LOL
 


Magnified

Poster Club Hall of Fame
Founding Member
Member ID
#1155
Messages
11,710
Reactions
19,827
Likes
352
City
West Texas
State
TX
Country
United States
Vehicle
2017 Charger HC (once upon a time)
Were there changes to "Track" mode for 2019? Why would it be so dramatically different? 10 hp shouldn't result in that huge a difference, at least in my experience. But then again, there are so many combos and nuances in the electronics small changes can have dramatic effects...
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #156
Were there changes to "Track" mode for 2019? Why would it be so dramatically different? 10 hp shouldn't result in that huge a difference, at least in my experience. But then again, there are so many combos and nuances in the electronics small changes can have dramatic effects...
I believe it had more to do with the total absence of traction control - meaning I got all the power. However, there are a few different tune maps when going from street to sport to track. Also the 2019 engines have the highest SAE numbers to date: https://www.hellcat.org/threads/2015-2019-hellcat-peak-hp-tq-comparisons.218335/

Mostly due to lower parasitic draw with the deletion of power steering. But I heard something changed with the valve events/cam specs and supercharger design in 2019. Unfortunately a lot of that is hearsay, and not first hand information.

All the more reason to finish breaking this thing in for racing next season.
 


Hpindy

4000 Posts Club
Founding Member
9 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#974
Messages
4,869
Reactions
11,001
Likes
302
City
Jackson's Point
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2018 challenger hellcat
I believe it had more to do with the total absence of traction control - meaning I got all the power. However, there are a few different tune maps when going from street to sport to track. Also the 2019 engines have the highest SAE numbers to date: https://www.hellcat.org/threads/2015-2019-hellcat-peak-hp-tq-comparisons.218335/

Mostly due to lower parasitic draw with the deletion of power steering. But I heard something changed with the valve events/cam specs and supercharger design in 2019. Unfortunately a lot of that is hearsay, and not first hand information.

All the more reason to finish breaking this thing in for racing next season.
No power steering, fresh air hood and the cam shaft is definitely different from 2018 and up . There is 2 different part numbers ( 2015-2017 and 2018 and up) and the Tuning is different for the cam shaft event between the 2 .

Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #158
No power steering, fresh air hood and the cam shaft is definitely different from 2018 and up . There is 2 different part numbers ( 2015-2017 and 2018 and up) and the Tuning is different for the cam shaft event between the 2 .
Your points mirror my research/findings.

Speaking of the fresh air hood - I have a Demon hood insert on order. Ideas. Ideas. Ideas.
 


OP
motorhead

motorhead

1000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Member ID
#1061
Messages
1,487
Reactions
2,486
Likes
162
City
Ottawa
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Challenger HC Widebody
Thread Starter #159
Did a little DIY project today. Bought a $20 catch can off eBay and gave it a few mods; like deleting the restrictive sintered bronze filter.

20191008_150931.jpg 20191008_151029.jpg

Built a bracket and made up some lines using some -10 AN line and some woven nylon sheathing. I was mortified to learn I didn't have the right size constant torque hose clamps - gotta get the hideous worm gear clamps off.

20191008_170634.jpg
 


Markp

5000 Posts Club
Founding Member
Donating Member
10 Second Best E/T
HFCOTM
Member ID
#968
Messages
5,219
Reactions
27,241
Likes
402
City
Fuck Trudeau
State
Non-US
Country
Canada
Vehicle
2019 Redeye
Your points mirror my research/findings.

Speaking of the fresh air hood - I have a Demon hood insert on order. Ideas. Ideas. Ideas.
I was thinking of doing the same thing. There is plenty of room for it.
 




Top